Willow Talks AEW All Out, Defending CMLL Women’s Title, & AEW Women's Division

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Welcome to the Battleground Podcast.

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You'll play for all things for resting and exclusive interviews

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What's up you guys?

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Welcome back into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast.

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And it has been an exciting week here on the show.

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We literally watched somebody commit arson on TV on Wednesday

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nights and now we're here to talk about a big

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event that's happening this weekend. We've got ae w all

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Out live from Chicago, and today on the show we

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have our guests Willow Nighting Galas with us.

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Willow, how are you, HOLLI? I'm doing well. I'm doing well,

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you know, get ready to beat up an ex friend

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and there are a lot of motions that I am feeling,

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but overall we'll go with good feeling good.

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Yeah, and that kind of wants I kind of want

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to ask just how are we feeling?

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You know this week and all out?

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You've got a former friend in a Chicago street fight,

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which you're no stranger into street fights whatsoever, But what

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are your thoughts heading into this match? And how important

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is this opportunity for you to make a statement and

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finally put this feud with Statlander behind you.

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Well, you know, I feel like there's the cliche of

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like thin line between love and hate, and the riod

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of that is just how passionate you are about something.

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And Statlander is somebody I'd been really close friends with

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from pretty early on in my career. I put a

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lot of trust into, confided in a lot, really been

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vulnerable with. And for me, street fights were something that

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we even came together as a team on previously and

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really kind of dug into this new level of who

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we were as performers and wrestlers and fighters, and that

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was really cool. Yeah, I thought that was very cool.

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So it feels fitting that we would end something on

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such a passionate p is a call violent note, and

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so I am excited to show her hey then cross me,

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but also a little nervous, a little apprehensive. I can't

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lie that is that is the flurry of emotion that

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I am kind of experiencing right now. Yeah.

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Is it satisfying getting your hands on STOKELG.

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Yeah, I mean it is. He has been a thorn

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in my side. Even when things were cool with State

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and I, it was kind of like, hey, I think

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this guy sucks. I think he's he's annoying, you know.

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Sometimes he's a little bit funny, but more than anything,

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he's just kind of a bother. But you seem to

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like him. So if for whatever reason, you feel like

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we can menace it from working with him, I'll let

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you be. I'll let it rock. Obviously that did not

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turn out for the better for me, right, So there's

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there's a little bit of vindication that I received about

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two weeks ago at all In I got to Timo

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b Tom. But but the real, I think moment of

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indication that I will feel is when I do finally

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get my hands on Stack, because that's the core of

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this really is He's the one. Yeah, broke my heart.

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This is something I think kind of adjacent to that.

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I've always been curious about this. So you're no strangers

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of the street fights, the death matches, the hardcore, all

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that kind of stuff.

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Uh.

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There was a very well known tournament back in the nineties,

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the King of the Death Matches, famously one by Texas Jack.

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Would you want to bring in a Queen of the

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Death Matches and do it properly in twenty is that?

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Would you waive that flag.

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I don't know that that is necessarily something that I

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would excel in. Maybe, like when I was early in

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my career on the knees, I like, very badly kind

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of wanted to get into a little bit of the

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death match scene. Obviously that didn't happen, and then it

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really wasn't until I came to AW that they started

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putting me in street fights, which I did not mind

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because I was I was a fan of that kind

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of stuff. But I don't know that.

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That's the details ornament of it would be for me.

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Yeah, not at this point where I'm got I think

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it would be cool to see.

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Yeah, I think so too. I think the ladies have

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digested this stuff just as we have the guys have,

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and you know, some of the street fights we've seen

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from you guys have s'm very creative, very violent.

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So I would be very.

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Accused career, you know, I think at this point, at

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this point, longevity is the name of the game, and

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we can throw a little bit of fun here and there, but.

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Long game, yeah, long game, yeah, perfect.

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Yeah, absolutely. So.

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You know, AAW has shown incredible diversity and inclusion, especially

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in the women's division, but you know, you look at

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the IWC, the people on the internet, the keyboard warriors right,

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some feel that the women's division doesn't always get the

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same spotlights as the men's. How do you feel about

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the current state of the women's division and AW and

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what would you like to see change, if anything.

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I mean, I think we've come a really long way

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just in the two years that I've been here. I

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think a lot of the issues initially with the women's

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division were kind of stemmed in years and years and

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years of stigma against women in for nasional wrestling. Like,

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I think it's a lot deeper than just Tony saying

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I want to give the girls time where I don't,

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you know, I think it's much bigger than him just

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saying that, because fans do ultimately have a little bit

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of saying what we do? You know, they like, this

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is our our company, We're gonna all the shots, We're

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gonna do what we're gonna do, and we're gonna make

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them pay attention and whatever. But it's hard when there's

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years and years of being like this is the bathroom

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break match, and people immediately tune out for they even

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give us a chance, and over the course of the

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five years, that AW has been running, you can see

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that we've been getting so much more so much more time,

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more opportunities. What you've seen over time that we've had

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more sparkes on the show, more opportunities, more time, and

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that's because over the five years we've like forced people

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to pay attention do us, and so with that we

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get we get higher ratings, we get more people trusting us,

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we get more people paying attention, more equity, and so

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that is a large part in thanks to what we've done,

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you know, and the women who were at AW before

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me have done as well. But thank you fans for

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tuning in, keep doing that, keep supporting us, keep being

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very vocal online about how you want to see us

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in bigger positions. And you know, I can't deny the

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fact that Merchides coming to our company has helped us

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because she has she's been an advocate for all of us,

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all of the division. And again, progress is something that

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is very slow. That is something that is bigger than wrestling.

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When you look at all the social change that our

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country or different countries have gone through and will continue

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to go through. Progress is slow, and so to see

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that reflected and wrestling something that already is kind of

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a little further back socially and progressively as the rest

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of the world. It's it's nice to see us kind

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of catching up and ganging there, and it's it's been

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five years, which is not a long time, and we've

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already progressed so much. So I am excited and proud

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and happy to have been a part of that. But

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of course I would always love to see I would

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love to see it more for a women's match to

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main event more regularly, or more matches on pay per

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views and like these big shows. But it's happening. It's happening,

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so just keep keep keep going with with what's working.

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Yeah, there you go, absolutely, And I guess some revolutions

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are slower than others, so it takes a little bit

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of time. Like I said, Yeah, so this is kind

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of crazy. You know, you just just got back from Wembley.

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You're gonna have all out coming out this weekend coming up,

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and then on September thirteenth, you're going to Arena Mexico

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for the CML ninety first Anniversary show to defend the

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CML World Women's Women's World Championship. A crazy You're on

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a short list of women that we competed on those stages.

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You know, what are your thoughts heading into that? You know,

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you don't want to jump over a Statlander caliber opponent, obviously,

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but you know, looking past her, I don't mean to

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say it the way looking past her. You know, what

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are your thoughts? What's the heading into this event? What

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do you think this means for you? And aw and

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what are you looking forward to most in your match? Again?

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Is zeus sixth Zusius?

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Well obviously, and then congrats, I'm being the champ too.

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That's just unbelievable, by the way, Grant.

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Thank you. They just they told me yesterday that I

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am actually the first American to hold that championship, and.

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I was like, I did WHOA, No, I didn't know that.

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Yeah, so I was like, that's really cool. Yeah.

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I figured someone would have like Lunif Lajahn or somebody

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would have been down there calls and have it before.

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But hey, that's great, that's even that's even more.

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Yeah. So, uh, definitely not overlooking stat Lander. You know,

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CMLL doesn't. They're not big into the blood and the

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guts and the hard course stuff, so they're not even

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sanctioning the match, So it's it's not for the title,

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but I have to imagine that if if what I'm

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planning on Dewey happens, if the plan that I have

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for Statlander goes as planned, and I me knowing her

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thinking that she would have a lot of brutalities for

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me as well, obviously I have to take an account

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then probably not gonna be feeling my best after this match.

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When when lose whatever draw, I'm gonna probably be feeling like, uh,

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pile two the next day. So I have to take

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that into account when I'm thinking ahead, and there's the

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question of like do you push you're training harder, do

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you give yourself a break? Mexico City, the elevation, he's

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a little killer, and that plays the effector in the game.

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So these are all things that I have been considering

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going into that match. And I am excited nonetheless, because

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the last time I was in Arena Mexico, I felt

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so much love. I felt like this air of just

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like the best thing where that pops in my hair

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right now is like regality, Like we don't have a

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building like Arena Mexico in the United States. We don't

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have a structure that is specifically dedicated to professional wrestling

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and has been there for you know, upwards of sixty

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seventy years. I think it was built in the fifties,

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if I'm not mistaken, And that's insane, the amount of history,

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of the amount of professional wrestling matches, the culture, the love,

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the passion that has been poured into that building, and

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that like seeps through those walls. We don't have any

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thing like that. So to go there and visit that

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and see the fans who is so deeply ingrained in

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their culture and lifestyle is a joy. So I'm excited.

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I'm very excited. You know, I'm probably gonna be hurting

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and breathing like, but it's I've been so honored to

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be carrying this championship with me. I look forward to,

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you know, hopefully carrying it for a very long time

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at making more trips to Mexico City because that's what

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I want to do. And Zeusius is someone who I

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had my first match at CML against in a six

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women tag, so I do have a level of familiarity

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with her. She came up to aw to wrestle Mercedes

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ahead of Forbid Door, so I also got to check

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out her work firsthand again in a singles match, and

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you know I've been keeping tabs. I am the CMLL

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World Women's Champion, so I have to I need to

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have my singer on the pulse and figure out what's

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going on over there, who my competition is, who I'm representing,

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because I am aware that I'm also I was put

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into a three way matt, a three way match that

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did have a CML representative there, an AW representative, and

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a new japan Strong representative, and I swept that up.

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But I don't have a vast experience as a part

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of the Amazona's division, and so I have to realize too,

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I won this and I'm representing AW first and foremost always,

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but as a carry you that banner around, I'm representing

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all of these women as well, so I have to

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be familiar with them, and like, I take a lot

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of pride to that, and I take a lot of

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pride in what they do, and I'm I'm proud to

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be carrying that flag right now. Yes, right.

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Now you are. I think the technical term is rudo,

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rudio rudo or running as a rudo. That yeah, are

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you running a rudo down there? Or are you are

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you technical? I just go I'm American's just historically I

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was gonna say historic.

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This is. This is something that I've come across being

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somebody who is an international traveler is usually whenever you're

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the foreigner, you are the bad guy. And people can

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look at me and feel that way. Especially they picked

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promo photos of me where I look a little more

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like I'm gonna beat you up. I'm a tough guy. Listen,

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I am a tough guy. Do not make matters, Yes,

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but I'm gonna have a good time doing that. And

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so whatever whatever way I'm painted, however, fans perceive me

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whatever they expect. I don't put a title or label

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on it, even even in the United States, in a

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w or wherever else I go. I'm not like, hey,

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I'm this or I'm not. I'm just Willow. Where I go,

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I'm Willow. Whether I'm having a good time dancing around

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or kicking your butt, I'm going to I am authentically

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one hundred percent of the time always, So I don't

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subscribe to that.

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Yeah, nice, good ass.

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So I do have a question, and this is always

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we come towards the end of our show where we

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we have a little fun.

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And I've got two questions for you.

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The first one is when they came to you in

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aw and said, hey, we're making you an action figure,

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what's going through your mind and the fact that you're

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not just getting an action figure, you're getting part of

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the rare addition, You're getting a Chase version of you.

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Not being able to say that in that roster, I

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didn't know, so I was getting an action figure at

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the end of last year's kind of when they first

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started talking about it, and the first thought I had was,

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I gotta tell my dad, because like that is one

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of the things that he's always like what he did

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act for her. He was also so mad that I

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dyed my hair from purple because he was like, you

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didn't even get an action figure. Yet you get rid

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of the purple hair, you think about cool, what would

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be to have an actually you're with purple hair? And

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I was like, I'm sorry, it was ruining my hair.

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I had to get rid of it. I loved it, right,

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I didn't even I just was like, I'm getting one,

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and that's an honor and that's great and I can't

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wait until it comes out. It really wasn't until I

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was doing San Diego Comic Con that I found out

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that there were going to be two, and I didn't

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know anything about a chase. I didn't know what that meant.

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And I was like, oh, this one's got to be

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like limited edition, right, like I was using that term.

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And I spoke to smart Mark Sterling, who is, if

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you're aware of the major Figures situation, that whole network

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that they have. Oh yeah, I was like that that's

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the guy I need to talk to about Action Figures.

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I was like, yeah, they got like a rare figure.

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He goes, oh, they made a chase and I was

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like a chase with that, And so he was the

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only the one who kind of filled me in on

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like how special that is. And I was like, damn

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that is. That's cool, and that, to me is like

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one of the things that obviously like Action Figure stopped

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on the bucket list. But I didn't realize like, oh,

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that's cool, that's an extra. It's kind of similar to

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when they put me on the truck mm hmm. They

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put my face on the aw truck. I was like, man,

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I didn't even know that that was something that I

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wanted to happen.

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Yeah.

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Now you're damn that's cool. Yeah, so I'm soaked about it.

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I can't wait. I want to I mean, obviously, I'm

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sure that they're gonna hook me up and send me

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a few of them, but I want I want to

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do the chase, and I want to go to targets

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or Walmart's or wherever stores and I want to find

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it on the show with myself.

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Yep, the name of the game.

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Yeah, well, we've got one more question to ask and

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then we're gonna We're gonna let you let you hop

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off here because I know your time is busy because

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you got to get ready for stat Lander this weekend,

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and then of course you're defending your championship down there

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in Mexico. At the end of the show, we always

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like to turn to chat GPT to ask our guests

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a question. We type in, we type in ask you

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know our guest the question, and it usually spits out

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how did you start your career in wrestling? Which everybody

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can go to Wikipedia and find that out, So we

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kind of have to, you know, slap it around like

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you're gonna do stat Lander on the week this weekend. Yes,

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And finally it came out with a question, that's fun.

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What is your ultimate go to karaoke song? And how

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would you rate your performance on a scale of one

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to ten.

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Oh I, so my go to karaoke song is, uh,

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what's up by the four non blonde?

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I I would give myself.

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A ten out of ten.

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Hey, well, yeah, now I.

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Have to unearthed a video. I'm sure my mother or

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my father or my sister somebody has it somewhere, and

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I gotta post it so you guys can see that.

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Yeah, that's the one. Let me let me present mine

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my go to It depends, Yeah, it depends on the situation.

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I will a lot of times. We'll go with uh,

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I want to dance with somebody when it houston, I

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get that about an eight. I get that about an eight.

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Uh.

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I gotta do falsetto for a lot of it, but

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a lot of the high notes I hit, it's really

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like the when the key change. That that that one

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I gotta But that is.

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Also so good. A favorite musical term is a modulation.

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It's fun to say, and I love when change.

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Happens and they don't happen as much anymore. Music. That's true,

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very good call.

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Other than that, it's usually eighties, it's Journey, it's Brian Adams,

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it's uh.

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I'll bring out everything I do I do for you.

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I'll do kiss from a Rose.

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I don't care that that was what I was gonna be,

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kind of like the karaoke here, So come come on down,

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we'll go.

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Walk is a great one.

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I gotta I gotta agree with that.

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Feels like I would need to have it with Brody there.

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I feel like to be.

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There for that. You know what, I haven't done karaoke

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with Brody, so maybe maybe.

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Well, so here's here's what we'll do. Because my go

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to karaoke is either Aerosmith I don't want to miss

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a Thing or steal Kiss from.

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A Rose, like I get down to both of those.

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So what we'll do? I know, I know we're like

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trying to rap up with Cold. I have to do

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a little shout out for don't want miss Thing by

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Erroosmith because my home promotion where I learn how to wrestle,

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and what do you see, after our shows, we would

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always end up going to this bar that always is karaoke,

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and that would be like the group song that everybody

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came from the show would sing. I don't want this

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thing by ol Sith. So you said that, and it

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set me back, like, oh, I have a.

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Those are those are my two go to all the time.

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So next time you do a show here in Nashville,

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after the show, we'll all get together. We'll go to

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Santa's Pub, which is this little trailer that the guy

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literally is Santa Claus and he'll tell you a story

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about how he's been stabbed and shot multiple times. Oh

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my god, and everything is cash only. So we'll all

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go and we'll see carry.

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But it's the best.

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Place to go for here.

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You Wednesday nights, they have yeah, Wednesday nights, they have

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it every night, so we'll go. Well, well, it's an

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honor and a privilege to have you on the show.

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Definitely have to do this very very soon and before

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we let you go, anything you want to say to

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people that are watching or listening to this right now.

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